Curse

Mickey · Jun 06, 2007, 05:23 AM // 05:23

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

If you're going for Survivor this isn't necessarily the easiest nor best place to do it. No doubt it's a great XP farm, but it's by no means safe to do without risking your title, nor easy to get to without help.

Try the Legendary Survivor Guide...dead easy with any Mo/X and X/Mo. Doable with any class with the right bonders and AL.

Nightfall characters can get there easily once you've completed The Time Is Nigh. Prophecies characters can get a run to Lion's Arch and jump the boat to Kaineng. Factions characters wind up there after completing Shing Jea missions.

And thanks to Witte Was for posting creds to my thread in the op

Seriously, that guide is kind of worthless, because you can use the same place much faster and more efficiently. Mo/X, X/Mo, all you need is balthazars, essence bond, prot spirit, soa, sh, and then three damage skills, and your set. 6 jade in hard mode give you around 3 k exp with a 150% scroll, and you can pay for the scrolls with the money you get. Easy, fast, efficient, no need to setup some crappy bonder to help out, and take longer. Not dissing the guide or anything, but there are more efficient ways to do it. Grats Witte, your a god, what is the first thing your gonna do now that your a god? I know what I would do. I'M GOING TO HOOTERS!

Witte Was · Jun 06, 2007, 05:36 AM // 05:36

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Originally Posted by Mickey

Seriously, that guide is kind of worthless, because you can use the same place much faster and more efficiently. Mo/X, X/Mo, all you need is balthazars, essence bond, prot spirit, soa, sh, and then three damage skills, and your set. 6 jade in hard mode give you around 3 k exp with a 150% scroll, and you can pay for the scrolls with the money you get. Easy, fast, efficient, no need to setup some crappy bonder to help out, and take longer. Not dissing the guide or anything, but there are more efficient ways to do it. Grats Witte, your a god, what is the first thing your gonna do now that your a god? I know what I would do. I'M GOING TO HOOTERS!

Really thanks for the compliments, but please don't flame guides from someone else. I like the guide, it's fast, efficient and extremely safe.

argh · Jun 06, 2007, 05:51 AM // 05:51

I do find it quite offensive how you said their guide was 'worthless'. The time the poster put in it should be thanked, not considered 'worthless'.

RainwalkerC · Jun 06, 2007, 08:10 AM // 08:10

yep, got the survivor title using the "worthless" build in 15 hrs

thx

Antithesis · Jun 06, 2007, 08:39 AM // 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey

Seriously, that guide is kind of worthless, because you can use the same place much faster and more efficiently. Mo/X, X/Mo, all you need is balthazars, essence bond, prot spirit, soa, sh, and then three damage skills, and your set. 6 jade in hard mode give you around 3 k exp with a 150% scroll, and you can pay for the scrolls with the money you get. Easy, fast, efficient, no need to setup some crappy bonder to help out, and take longer. Not dissing the guide or anything, but there are more efficient ways to do it. Grats Witte, your a god, what is the first thing your gonna do now that your a god? I know what I would do. I'M GOING TO HOOTERS!

You're right, it can be done quicker without bonders, but if you miss your PS cast or get even momentary lag you're toast.

It requires a little more skill and luck than most players possess to confidently make the run 350 times without screwing up once. I'd rather balance efficiency and safety by spending an extra 15 secs per run casting bonds that both protect you and speed up kills so i KNOW i'll survive and get the title in 15 hours

There's a hundred ways to skin a cat...mine is just an easy and safe option for those who want to assume minimum risk of losing their title. It's not infallible, but it's pretty close.

angmar_nite · Jun 06, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00

SO no par build ;_;?

kwillance · Jun 07, 2007, 09:42 AM // 09:42

I was doing good with P/N, din't have any defence skills, just with full bonds it was enaugh to get the aggro set and kill them

but I'm soo stupid I forgot about the traps lol

lost survivor 2

argh · Jun 07, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45

Is there any Mo/N variation without 55?

Covah · Jun 07, 2007, 08:14 PM // 20:14

prot spirit, shielding hands, SoA, SS, blessed sig, and 3 enchants. You take no dmg so it doesn't matter your health as long as you keep a prot up.

MrGuildBoi · Jun 07, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34

I don't know if it was discussed in other pages, but for the A/N why not use a summon to trigger traps other than run through them? You have skill slots, why not use them?

bog boy · Jun 08, 2007, 06:44 AM // 06:44

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Originally Posted by MrGuildBoi

I don't know if it was discussed in other pages, but for the A/N why not use a summon to trigger traps other than run through them? You have skill slots, why not use them?

because he wanted to show that u wont need the whole skill set
and it can be done without the summon

Antithesis · Jun 08, 2007, 03:16 PM // 15:16

I've updated the Legendary Survivor XP Farm thread for skill point farmers and brave Survivor title hunters.

With X/Mo or Mo/X you can farm 36 Jade Brotherhood in HM within 5 mins for 20700 XP with a Hunter's scroll. That's 248400XP per hour

Gotcha beat Witte...well, call it a tie?!?

It's reliable for at least 200K XP per hour with zoning and selling.

Dogma Blutlust · Jun 08, 2007, 03:41 PM // 15:41

dont think so :P
the rockshot runs is doalbe it less then 2mins..

Antithesis · Jun 08, 2007, 03:48 PM // 15:48

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Originally Posted by Dogma Blutlust

dont think so :P
the rockshot runs is doalbe it less then 2mins..

...for 12000XP. 5 mins and 20000XP is a careful run with a Mo/N sporting SS. A W/Mo with SoJ does it in about 6 to 7 mins so it's slower than Witte's W/R.
The realistic hourly rate for both runs is about 200K to 240K XP so they're both pretty good for skill point farming.

I'm sure there are better spots out there to be found so i'm not about to enter a pissing contest with Witte...i'm sure i'll come off second best

Regardless, Wajjun Bazaar makes both a decent Survivor spot and XP farm

Witte Was · Jun 08, 2007, 06:34 PM // 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antithesis

...for 12000XP. 5 mins and 20000XP is a careful run with a Mo/N sporting SS. A W/Mo with SoJ does it in about 6 to 7 mins so it's slower than Witte's W/R.
The realistic hourly rate for both runs is about 200K to 240K XP so they're both pretty good for skill point farming.

I'm sure there are better spots out there to be found so i'm not about to enter a pissing contest with Witte...i'm sure i'll come off second best

Regardless, Wajjun Bazaar makes both a decent Survivor spot and XP farm

Hm..no idea which one is faster

They are both the same I think..yours is for Cantha, mine is for Tyria. Yours is probably safer for survivors. Oh yeah..don't challenge me

Antithesis · Jun 09, 2007, 01:06 AM // 01:06

The gods and a late night conspired against me - i miscalculated the XP per Jade with a Hunter's scroll as 575XP, it's 525XP.

A W/Mo can take 32 Jade in 5mins in a shoddy run for 16800XP - i'm sure it can be improved upon by taking down the Rits faster. Scourge + Mystic Wrath + Insidious on a Mo/N or N/Mo would do the job. Everything else drops quickly.

Definitely not recommended for Survivors - there's a spot where you're often hit by 9-12 Jades at once and can drop from 2000HP to 500HP in the blink of an eye. You literally need to spam Spirit Bond to keep up, and there are mesmers with interrupts! Still, can be done and livens things up

[edit]: I've overhauled the Legendary Survivor Guide to include builds for Mo/X and all X/Mo's as well as easy, moderate and hard runs. It's possible to get the survivor title safely at over 200,000XP per hour by farming the first 20 Jade Brotherhood including the ele boss.

Witte Was · Jun 16, 2007, 08:36 AM // 08:36

I do them both

It's less boring if you kill some Jade's and Devourers in stead of only 1 specie

Abonai Laguna · Jun 22, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49

I wanna make a new farmer, what do u say i shud take?

CyberDemon · Jul 02, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41

THX

murtagh deadmoon · Jul 03, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20

I just thought i'd post to say Good Job to Witte and to Dogma, very inventive and useful. My Assassin is going for the skill hunter titles and i've ran out of Skill Points (I bought every Assassin Skill before tomes came out :|) so i've been using a bonder and the Assassin build to farm these for some Exp. Very handy and fast

. Good job guys